--- title: "Crushing It: Exploring Risk And Resilience In Success | Bawn Inc." description: Explore the untold stories of risk and resilience with Crushing It, hosted by former FBI agents Jonathan Trimble and Rob Cochran. Subscribe for insights into success. image: https://bawn.com/hubfs/shutterstock_2592949573-1.jpg --- # Crushing It ### Real conversations with leaders navigating risk, resilience, and growth in high-stakes environments. Hosted by former FBI agents and Bawn founders, *Crushing It* features candid conversations with founders, executives, and advisors navigating growth, cyber risk, and high-stakes decisions.     ## Featured Episode ### Navigating Compliance in the Age of Cybersecurity *Featuring Kate Williams, Partner, Risk Assurance & Advisory – Maxwell Locke & Ritter* Startups are being asked to prove compliance far earlier than they expect—often before they feel ready. Kate Williams explains how SOC 2 readiness, audit timing, and emerging AI risks are reshaping how growing companies earn trust and scale responsibly. [Watch / Listen](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/kate-williams?hsLang=en) ## What We Cover *Crushing It* explores the real decisions, risks, and lessons behind leadership and success—especially when the stakes are high and the path forward isn’t obvious. ####  Leadership and decision-making under pressure ####  Risk, trust, and credibility in complex environments ####  The realities behind growth and success ####  Lessons learned from setbacks and near-misses ## Episodes ### Leasing vs. Owning: The Commercial Real Estate Decision Every Business Faces Maury Bronstein shares how real estate choices affect growth, capital, and long-term strategy.   [Watch / Listen](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/maury-bronstein?hsLang=en) ### Don’t Chase Hype. Build What Works. Jeremy Middleton shares lessons from building a FTSE 100 company from £10,000, explaining why founders should bootstrap early, raise capital carefully, and scale only when the business model truly works. [Watch / Listen](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/jeremy-middleton?hsLang=en) ### Betting Millions Before the Rules Existed Ed McDermott shares how he built a European cannabis powerhouse amid regulatory chaos, capital pressure, and high-stakes uncertainty. [Watch / Listen](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/ed-mcdermott?hsLang=en) ### From Chaos to Cohesion: Leading Turnarounds Without Losing the Team Kevin Browett leads a candid conversation on leading turnarounds, navigating culture and ego, and building teams that win under pressure. [Watch / Listen](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/kevin-browett?hsLang=en) ### Responsible AI by 2030: Transparency, Trust, and the Risks We Can’t Ignore Xiaochen Zhang offers a deep dive into responsible AI, revealing why transparency, accountability, sustainability—and missing talent and tools—will define AI’s future. [Watch / Listen](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/xiaochen-zhang?hsLang=en) ### Navigating Compliance in the Age of Cybersecurity Kate Williams explains why compliance expectations are showing up earlier for growing companies—and how SOC 2 readiness, trust, and emerging AI risks are reshaping how leaders scale responsibly. [Watch / Listen](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/kate-williams?hsLang=en) ### Playing the Long Game: Risk and Resilience from the World of Golf Former FBI agent JJ Costigan explains how preparation, discipline, and leadership keep high-stakes environments on course.   [Watch / Listen](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/jj-costigan?hsLang=en) ### Turning Risk Into a Business: MGAs Reshaping Insurance Somil Jain discusses how Managing General Agents (MGAs) turn complex risk—cyber, AI, and emerging tech—into real, scalable insurance businesses. [Watch / Listen](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/somil-jain?hsLang=en) ### Why Crushing It Exists *Crushing It* was created to go beyond the highlight reel. Too often, we see success without hearing about the risks, missteps, and hard decisions that made it possible. This podcast focuses on those moments—where judgment mattered, pressure was real, and the outcome wasn’t guaranteed. It’s about what leaders learn when the stakes are high. ## About the Hosts ### Jonathan Trimble Jon is a former FBI Special Agent and cybersecurity executive whose career focused on intelligence, analytics, and technology development. A graduate of the U.S. Coast Guard Academy, he brings a strategic, systems-level perspective to how leaders understand risk and make decisions in complex environments. ![Jonathan Trimble](https://bawn.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Untitled%20design%20(8).png?width=250&height=250&name=Untitled%20design%20(8).png) ![Robert Cochran](https://bawn.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Cochran%20Headshot.png?width=250&height=250&name=Cochran%20Headshot.png) ### Robert Cochran Rob is a former FBI Special Agent who led and supported extensive international cyber investigations involving complex threat actors and cross-border risk. A graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, he brings an operational, real-world lens to conversations about resilience, accountability, and leadership under pressure. **If the themes we explore on *Crushing It* resonate with the challenges you’re navigating, you may find Bawn’s approach helpful.** [**Learn how Bawn works →**](https://bawn.com/about-us?hsLang=en) Interested in being a guest on *Crushing It?* **[*Share your story →*](https://bawn.com/crushing-it/guest-signup?hsLang=en)** Listen on [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crushing-it/id1854903281) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/0jQDsj2x4Ko3mwZ5NNmLzW) | [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTdlFlAlE7qscHIo9ppB_5jM9epuGGfKX) × ![rocket](https://www.lean-labs.com/hs-fs/hubfs/sr-assets/images/rocket.png?width=200&height=200&name=rocket.png) ### Superior Inbound Material Quickly and efficiently build the materials you need to support your inbound marketing strategy. 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